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Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Black Is Black As Black

I have the site set up where I moderate comments that are received more than a week after the original entry was posted. I read them, but I don't usually engage older discussions again, 'cause I have usually made my point by then. However, I have been stewing a little over a comment that was made last week about a post from September regarding Black folks' unhealthy relationship with complexion. In the original post, I addressed the fact that Black folks tend to bemoan preference for light skin and accept (if not celebrate) those who solely/typically desire darker-skinned mates:

Why the double standard? I have two theories. The most obvious being that because darker-complexioned folks have been the greater victims of the legacy of slavery's caste system, celebrating them serves as a criticism of their disenfranchisement. There hasn't been a time in Afro-American history where being light-skinned made one vilified or considered less-attractive, so there is no widespread need to celebrate or convince ourselves that "light is beautiful". That notion has been shoved in our faces for far too long.

I also believe that Black people tend to associate darker skin with authentic Blackness. As a result, when we hear someone laud the looks of a darker brother or sister, we subconsciously interpret this as an affirmation of their appreciation for Blackness. Thus, a Black man proclaiming his appreciation for dark skin and kinky hair is celebrating his Black heritage, whereas a Black man extolling the beauty of light skin and curly hair is revealing his self-hatred or color issues.


Here is the recent comment from "Foxy Black":
"I don't think that a preference for dark skin is as wrong as a preference for light. Let's face it...we are (when not diluted with other blood) a dark people. To prefer lighter skin is to prefer black when it is not fully black.

I find that lighter skin people, men and women, tend to ASSUME that people want them. That makes people like me say 'to hell with you'. I like darker skinned men and I'm not sorry for that.

And like jenteel said, when people say they want to be 'darker' or they want a 'dark' man, what are they really wanting? Do they just mean caramel or milk chocolate? Even a man with a peppermint pattie complexion still has some trouble."

It's rare that a comment on this blog makes me upset but this comment made me...well, upset. It's not that I am surprised that people feel this way, as she pretty much summed up the attitude that I described in my piece. But you know how there are things that you may secretly think or feel, but wouldn't express publicly because you KNOW it's kinda ignorant or flat-out wrong? Yeah, I would have put this comment in that boat.

I personally think that when it comes to having color-preference, it's one thing to be drawn usually to a certain type and another to say "I only like XYZ" or "Only XYZ men are attractive." I also think it's somewhat normal to be skewed in the direction of mates who resemble a parent. I know I begrudgingly accepted that I am particularly attracted to tall light skinned men and figured that it had to do with the fact that my first image of manhood was a tall, light-skinned father. And as a daddy's girl, I've been subconsciously looking for a man who reminded me of him either physically or in terms of behavior and attitude. I also think that as a function of the ego, we tend to seek mates who remind us of ourselves. Looking back at the men I have liked the most in my dating/crush having history, the ones I wanted most resembled me in a lot of ways: physically, personality-wise, interests, profession, etc. So yeah, big sturdy high-yellow artsy boys tend to score rather high in my book. But it doesn't negate the good looks of men who don't look like me.

However, I don't think that I should feel any shame about my preference more than the dark complexioned sister who tends to prefer chocolate men. I think it's the folks who are ONLY attracted to one sort of look or who are primarily attracted to folks who look different from themselves or different from their parents who are speaking to some sort of issues. I.E. the friend I had in high school who was the color of dark cocoa and said "When I think of a pretty girl, light skinned girls are the first thing that come to mind." His mother, who he had a great relationship with, looked just like he did. So did his dad.

HOWEVER, we had this conversation in September and I didn't want to have it again. What "Foxy's" comment raised in me was frustration at the notion that complexion is a quantifier of Blackness. I find that absurd. Now, we are all intelligent to realize that there is no standard scale for accessing degrees of Negritude and there is, of course, a difference between being racially Black and culturally Black (though I would argue that one can be the former and not the latter, but one MUST be the former to be the latter). And we know that there are a number of ways one could be culturally Black, even if they hate Rap, basketball, Soul Food and many of the other cultural products typically associated with Blackness.

But is "Foxy" implying some sort of reverse one-drop rule? Where "authentic" Blackness is determined by complexion and percentage of non-Black blood in one's veins? We aren't in the Sudan. We are generations upon generations removed from Africa. One could look like Vanessa Williams and have never met a relative who was anything but Black. Would she be less Black than someone who had stronger African features? What about the browner-skinned biracial kid who doesn't look mixed. Is she Blacker than him? I've know folks who looked as "out of place" in their family as Denise and Sandra did to the other Huxtables. That's what happens with generations of race mixing and complexion mixing and science stuff that I really don't know much about.

We are NOT a "dark people". As Africans in America, or even globally, we are a people of many, many complexions. We are as much Barack as we are Michelle. And while MOST Africans were typically darker at some point in our history, we are in 2009. If Blackness were determined by complexion only, perhaps people would wear Clarence Thomas on their t-shirts instead of Malcolm X. Black is as Black does. And while not everything we do is beautiful or for the best interests of the collective, it is not complexion that determines one's value in the community. 50 Cent is dark. Huey Newton is light. Who represents a better image of Black manhood? Where does the man who looks like 50 and acts like Huey fit in?

Theoretically, I understand what "Foxy" is saying: to appreciate dark skin and to value it most is to value who you are and where you came from. However, it would be foolhardy to act as if we are not hundreds of years deep in looking like all shades of the complexion rainbow. If dark skin once meant something about your proximity to Africa and Blackness in thought or action...it doesn't now. Find another way to express your love for who you are as an African descendant, because marginalizing high yallers and mulattoes isn't going to cut it.

In fact, "Foxy", I'm of the opinion that I am Blacker than you, despite being (presumably) lighter. Care to challenge that? I'd gladly publish a counterpoint.

Sister Toldja-
Black as the Ace of Spades
Black as Kathleen Cleaver
Black is as Black does


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D said...

Very well put, from a 'yellow' girl who only knows black relatives. Saying you only date a certain complexion, in my opinion, is the same as saying you only date outside of your race.

sonadorasavant said...

Jami (am I allowed to say that on here?), being black is just so hard sometimes when you stop and think about it.

So many variables color the black experience: age, sex, location (throwback AIM terminology!), education level, social class, complexion... but oppression/discrimination is something that 95% of us have experienced and is a common tie that allows us to continue to relate to each other.

It's no secret that complexion is a hot topic literally from birth- all of us have met the Wesley Snipes-lookalike who talks about how light he was when he was born (and initially had green eyes to boot).

I don't ever expect our internal color conflict to be resolved during my life time. It's too pervasive, and reflects the lighter-is-better ideal of billions of people in this world (Latin America, India, China).

Simply put, at times, dark skinned African Americans feel oppressed, unloved, discarded... and may feel that they get the brunt of the negative aspects of being black from whites and lighter-skinned blacks alike. Darker-skinned black women, especially, are sh*tted on way too often in mediums ranging from music videos to marriage.

I think that blacks as a whole should demand to see greater diversity in our images of beauty, but even that cannot save us if we don't recognize and change the color issues within our communities.

Sister Toldja said...

@sonadorasavant- I agree, but I don't think that we should allow people to adopt a reactionary "Black is beautiful...but ONLY dark Black" attitude as a coping mechanism. It reminds me of Mo'Niques "Skinny bitches are evil" schtick. You can challenge the marginalization of one group without trying to establish it as the normative or deem it superior.

tigger500 said...

I think you are right here.

The thing for me is making a distinction between celebrating one thing and prefering one thing. A person who dates all different shades of blackness but says they "prefer" light skin is very very different from a person who won't even speak to a dark-skinned sister and says they "prefer" light skin.

I think people invoke "preferences" as deflection. It makes the universal individual and strips people's choices of their political and social context.

For me, I love all black women and men of all complexions but I make it a point to celebrate dark-skinned women (and to a lesser extent light-skinned men) verbally, in public, often, because they are demonized. I don't prefer dark-skinned women (or light-skinned men), I'm just aware that by speaking more to their beauty I can do my part to balance the scales a tiny tiny bit.

I think this is the achilles heel of black progress. I think we are so color-struck that it renders us inert.

D W JazzLover said...

Sister Toldja, I thought long and hard about responding to this topic, as you said this is 2009 and it seems the pain is still deep with in us.I grew up in a large Louisiana family, and we had every color from white to black in this one family and I never saw a difference. So I have never been attracted to anyone because of their color but because of who they were.(Sexy comes in all colors)!!!
But the conversation here is not just an American color thing, it has been exported to any country that has been colonized by Europeans. I have lived out side our country for over 30 years and have experienced this color thing by people of the region who are much darker than me or some of our friends and consider themselves white!They sell bleaching cream to Indians Nationals on Television and they are very degrading commercials. There are Asians here that will not let one ray of sunshine touch their skin (Umbrellas and gloves in 114 degree heat because they do not want to be mistaken for Negritos, which are an original Asian Indigenous people.
So please trust me when I say we are not the only ones who have this issue, But I thought we were well pass the need for this conversation.I guess I was wrong.
Keep on moving ST, you know what you are doing..Power Sister.

ghettoprincess said...

ST, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said it was a coping mechanism. It feels normal to be skewed in the direction of someone who resembles a parent. Looking at celebrities, tv, and even those around us it seems that doesn't apply if that parent is a dark skinned woman. Kanye, Diddy, or Kobe didn't choose women that resemble their mothers. Even with this Usher and Tameka thing going on, it's mind blowing how creative the diggs on Tameka's appearance have been. Feeling like you are at the bottom of the list in terms of desirability is hard and maybe she was reaching for anything, unfortunately at the expense of lighter skinned blacks, to convince herself that there is some special beauty in that darkness.

Naomi said...

Wow. this happens everywhere though and it pisses me off!

ms kitty karyall said...

I am a light skinned black woman, my mom is black and my dad was white. I was raised by my mother and have never known my father. When I was a child my mother always told me that I was black. AND thank god she did..I would have been a basket case if I had thought otherwise. Needless to say, I think it's unfortunate that some lighter skinned people including myself, have to prove our "blackness"...or assume that I cannot relate to our struggle in America, or think that I'm more fortunate than my darker brothers and sisters. We are all BLACK folk and why would we want to debate that. It's bad enough that we have to prove ourselves to others. Thanks for the post it was very insightful.