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Monday, May 11, 2009

Once Upon A Time

...I tried mobile blogging and it was a big fat fail. So, I have painstakingly retyped the post from my cell phone. Bravissimo. Or whatever that means.

"This is my first attempt at mobile blogging, so please excuse me if it comes out weird (does two weeks later count as weird?-Ed.). The predictive text function on my cell helps, but my long nails are slowing me down, LOL. And the fact that I am using a phone makes me inclined to use text speak like LOL, LOL!

So apparently, Rick Ross called Eminem a honky in a freestyle. Writer/media gadfly Toure stated on Twitter that anyone who lets that slide, but got upset by Asher Roth's "nappy headed hoes" gaffe is a hypocrite. For those who didn't hear, Roth "joked" a few weeks ago that he was "hanging with some nappy headed hoes" when he was at Rutgers making an appearance or whatever someone does when they are promoting their yawntastic album.

I personally think very little of all three rappers. Ross and Roth are both living proof of the sorry state of Rap music today: a fake thug who has been publicly outed as a fraud, but is allowed and praised for continuing his web of lies and delisions of gangsta, and a suburban White college boy with an affected "urban" accent who's popish music leaves much to be desired for anyone who grew up on real Hip-Hop...unless you, too are a White boy who lacks a viable voice in Hip-Hop and has been dying to identify with the culture you envy so much.

*Pause- I could totally love and appreciate someone else's culture without ingratiating myself in to it and making it my own. But then again, I respect space.*

Roth received lengthy write ups from magazines, blogs and even the NY Times. This does not happen for most rappers dropping their first studio album. He is the great White hope, though Soundscan will tell you otherwise. Whilst a lot of White boys have been looking for their own Superhero of rap, ultimately, Roth's college lifestyle and suburban roots kill the escapist ghetto Black fantasies for White listeners. Eminem was a more viable White rap star because he still presented a tortured, urban gritty persona. He was the down-ass White boy for the colored folk and still accessible enough for the White boys.

Speaking of Em, he had his own minor controversy when Benzino outed him for using the N-word and talking greasy about Black women in some early mixtape tracks. Not surprising, like with Roth, Hip-Hop fans of all races decided that their adoration of the White emcee trumped standing up for the degradation of Black women and addressing rhe racially charged disrespect. Em and Roth are both classic examples of the tendency of folks to love the culture, but not respect the people.

Was Rick Ross wrong for calling Eminem a honky. Yes. It was a weak attempt at being insulting whilst stating an obvious fact. We know Em is White...and? Ross is not intelligent enough to present an argument about or how not Em's race correlates to his relevance. Whatever he was trying to say with that word, he wasn't saying shit.

HOWEVER-was Ross' slip as offensive as Asher's? Hell no. Ross used a word that has been historically used by an oppressed group to express contempt at the oppressor. It is a passively offensive term and it has never caused White people any great hurt. There is typically more emotion raised in the person saying it than there is in the target. Unlike nigger, which is rooted in centuries of abuse and struggle. Basically, honky is mean, but rather innocuous. No one was ever called a honky while being strung up with a noose or violated by a slave master.

Roth, on the other hand, made light of an extremely heinous incident that violated an innocent group of girls. He mocked a racially charged fiasco directed at the women of the race who he jacks from culturally on a daily basis. Again-loving the culture, disregarding the people. And what's worst, this motherfucker tried to say in his "apology" that he was poking fun at Imus himself. Right.

Both Ross and Eminem targeted Black women with their racial comments, but only the race aspect of their foolishness has been criticized. Basically, it's okay to talk about women in Hip-Hop, especially Black ones. Most rappers are big fat misogynists or at the very least, passively sexist, from your Snoops, to your Commons, to your Waynes and your Phontes. And if you think your average Hip-Hop fan would choose the dignity of Black women over a dope emcee (actually or perceived), then I have a bridge over the East River I'd like to sell you.

It was written,
Sister Toldja



9 props:

Cheekie said...

"Basically, honky is mean, but rather innocuous. No one was ever called a honky while being strung up with a noose or violated by a slave master."

THANK YOU. I'm tired of this victimized contest that 2520s are trying to win. Stop comparing apples and oranges other than saying their both roundish fruit.

Both of the aforementioned terms are insults. Period. They are not the same level of insult, they're just both insults. In fact, "honky" was a retaliation of the N-word. It wasn't rooted on superiority and oppressive behavior, it was a reaction to said oppressive behavior. That's like saying a mouse calling a cat a pussy after escaping to the safety of his mouse hole is the same as the cat trying to eat the mouse.

Brittni said...

Great post as usual, ST.

Comment to the previous commenter though: I'm lame, I know this, what's '2520' mean? I keep hearing it and know that it references the white folk - but why? Thanks.

Donald Frazell said...

Honky doesnt exactly get the blood boiling like the N word does. Arent any real good put downs for whites, outside of ethnic ones from Europe like frogs and spics. Wops and Poloks. Krauts and limee's. Kyke is from the circle put on jewish immigrants names, a kyke in yiddish. Without the threat of violence and ability to objectivize for control, names just dont have any impact.

Nips from Nippon and Chinks from China are kinda forced. Gooks the only real emotional competition to the N word I can think of, as we killed hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese, if not millions, during the war.

We have newer denigrating objectivizing names for latinos than anyone else out here in LA. I would be a FrogKrautLimee myself, but no white American really cares about all that, we are all mutts, black and white.

Cracker and honky just dont do it. Though we non-southerner's often call stupid Stars and Bars in Gunracked Truck Guy crackers ourselves. Sorry, guess we need a new name to show hate. Maybe have a contest? Or just get rid of hate names altogether, I thought the NAACP buried the N word? That was incredibly stupid, the old folks of the civil rights generation are getting kinda senile, and truly need some new blood. Not Bloods. Sorry.

My sons grandfather, a Jamaican born lawyer who became head of drug rehab for the State of NY, just died. His generation and his fellow civils rights lawyers, and Q Dogs as constructive force, not frat boyz, are dying out. Real good guy, up in Albany. Emil used to get burned in effigy by methadone users because he wanted to end, it doesnt work. Grew up knowing many jazz musicians and those on the streets who were hooke,d worked to rid us of the scourge of drugs, but it will always be with us, and only hope to contain it.

And as far as fakers in rap, see my post below on the thread of Homoerotic art posing as fashion. Snoop was a bag boy, not a gang banger.

art collegia delenda est

have a nice day! honkhonk.

Cheekie said...

@Brittni: Yeah, it's code for white folk. You may have also seen them referred to as "YT" (say it out loud). Y = 25th letter of alphabet; T = 20th letter of alphabet. It's even more code-y and mysterious than YT and I encourage the use of it in real life. lol

Donald Frazell said...

Sorry YT is lame. If you wanna get this boy, call him what he is, a Wigger. A wannabe wite......

And lil Wayne has a college degree, entertainment is all illusion. But rap is gasping its dying breath. Time for something new.

How about returning to jazz? RandB is mostly crap for kids now, try Cassandra Wilson's "Blue Light til Dawn" and "New Moon Daughter", I GUARANTEE you will love them, though her last few CDs are disappontments.

My girl Tricia Tahara had a great CD, anyone who can pull off Mile's Footprints with words got skill, but outta print right now. Hope she finsihes her New CD and reissues it, had Wallace Rhoney and Geri Allen on her first CD, Wallace produced it. Geri the best female pianist out there.

Its time to put aside childish things.

art collegia delenda est

The Brown Blogger said...

You did it again... Oh no!

Asa usual, your dopeness is leaked to the world one post at a time. No need to expound, I'm sure the young cats will speak truths with you.

And then do something about it.

Donald Frazell said...

I see Kenyan women took my suggestion of the Lysistrata approach already. Give it a try, black womanhood should be seen as divine, not as just mothers, but lovers and partners, as the Goddesses you are.

Try it, you got the seal of approval, now use it. Something must be done, got sick of hearing about "doming" and "smashing" "females" when my kids were teenagers, it is a cultural thing, taught, handed down, and can be ended. Use you fine bodies as weapons to counter attack that which denigrates you, as bad as the N word is in the mouth of white folks. "Female", as in an animal, is within the "race".

Obama's victory takes out the lie of young black men to quit, without ever trying, and putting the inevitable frustration on Woman. Think about it. I may be white, but know enough fine black women, and coached enough young black men, well, all races actually, to know this, And your fathers age, been around. Think about it. And listen to Cassandra Wilson, forget those who sell their bodies, like Beyonce, damn her lyrics are nasty, in a bad way. How does she get away with it? Like Cassandra sang, redbone woman got a problem. And high yella perhaps worse. Betty Carter if you are really ready for serious music.

2 said...

I actually completely disagree with you on this on Sister T. I really get tired of us justifying and minimizing our wrongs by comparing them to the wrongs of others. This ain't no wrong contest - wrong is wrong.

In my opinion, we can't continue to express outrage at white people's racisms when we ourselves get free passes to be racist. I remember growing up hearing the argument that we (black people) couldn't be racist because we didn't have any power - well I truly believe that is baloney. Racism/prejudice - whatever you wanna call it - is wrong.

This discussion could obviously morph into a whole different discussion about the N word in general. Like, why are we still using the word like water, yet get upset when somebody else that ain't us use it? Like why do rappers/entertainers market their product towards white people, and then pepper their product with copius amounts of N words - but don't expect white people to say the word. DUMB.

To get back on topic, we (black people) need to stop making excuses and coming up with justifications why our [wrong] actions are acceptable. Just because white people lie, cheat and steal doesn't mean we should be outraged when we get caught lying, cheating and stealing.

Rick Ross is wrong - period. No need to make comparisons to determine his level of wrongness.

suga said...

Kinda off subject:

Back in 2004, I wrote a paper in college for a Black Feminism course about how Benzino put Em on blast for his remarks about Black women on a few mixtapes he did back in the day, and how nobody really reacted to it, and Benzino only blasted him because he had beef with him...not because he felt like Black would should be respected. It's crazy how we can be ridiculed and insulted throughout hip hop, but let a rapper say something degrading about a woman of another race (ie that verse where Puffy said somethign about asian women changing his linen...cant believe he retracted it and sent out a public apology). Hip hops priorities seem to be all effed up.