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Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Chasing "The Cool"

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I have heard young "good" Black men complain on many occasions about the number of sisters who pass over them because they aren't "roughnecks". These are usually the nice guys who have a much kinder, gentler appeal than your local street toughs. Not soft brothers, necessarily, but not hard ones either. After hearing a few anecdotes to this effect on the blogosphere lately, I wanted to offer a few points of clarification that may help these gentlemen understand what's not working for them and why.

It is a misconception that all or most Black women are in search of thugs or men with "thug appeal". A friend of mine complained once that he thought all college educated Black women were looking for "brolic thug doctors". That made me laugh, but it wasn’t quite close and there shan't be a cigar. Granted, there is a contingent of women ISO the elusive....or non-existent "educated thug", but those women are in the minority, trust.

There IS something, however, that many Black women are looking for in potential suitors (especially when they are meeting them in a club or bar) and that is what is commonly referred to as swagger. I personally like to call it the cool. You see, coolness is important to Negroes. We are the universally acknowledged purveyors of cool. There is not as much pressure on Black women to have the cool, but there is far more pressure for us to be beautiful (something we have but so much control over), be in shape (we have lots of control over this, though it’s not easy for some) and to have big asses and attractive-if-not-large breasts (we can only control this with silicone. Gross).

Ebony last month did a tribute to the "25 Coolest Brothers Of All Time". They were from varying time periods, some were conventionally handsome, others not so much. But they all have that Black man swagger. That natural ease and confidence.

Say you have a handsome, statuesque fella* of impressive educational and/or professional accomplishments. This dude has an outstanding personality, a crazy sense of humor and a great spirit. However, those character traits just may not shine through in 45 seconds of conversation in a noisy room. Especially if the man in question doesn't have the cool

You can be charming and funny without it, but ultimately, swagger is what most Black women are gonna be initially drawn in by. Especially if you are trying to mack down a woman who has been approached by 10 other men in the past hour. That swagger is what will put you ahead of the other potential suitors. It gives a woman that feeling that even though he is pushing up on you, you still feel like you have to work to be chosen...and it makes you want to do just that.

Sad fact: light skinned men have a natural disadvantage, because our community equates darker skin with authentic Blackness. As swagger is associated with Blackness, lighter men are perceived to be corny by some sisters who need do the knowledge. Light Black women have the same problem when it comes to being checked for authenticity, but it manifests in different ways. I always liked light-complexioned men (I mean, have you SEEN my father?), but a lot of sisters don’t. There loss is my gain (Send me your tired, your weary, your Craig Davids, your Al. B Sure!s and I will gladly clutch them to my bosom and love them tenderly.)

I’m not wholly defending the sisters, but I will say this: I know a lot of the men making these complaints are probably trying to get at the 2 or 3 "baddest" chicks in the club. The same girls who every other man is gonna try to holler at. Now, you can step it up and try re-hone your macking skills, or you can perhaps looks at some of the other girls who are pretty, but may get passed over when the pre-crazy Lauryn Hill or post-video vixen days Lauren London lookalike enters the room.

It’s sucks but most people are frightened by what they need and controlled by what they want. I’m sure I’d be frustrated if I were in these brothers' shoes, knowing that I am a good man and that sisters are constantly bemoaning the lack of good men, yet sleeping on one. But just remember that people see the packaging before they see the package. I'm from the school of "I'm dope and if you're dope, you'll see it", but I also know when it's time to go back to the drawing board and make a few slight edits for clarity, dig me?

Black women are worth the effort. Trust me.

But sisters, I got some words for y'all too. Long overdue ones. Stay tuned!

Holla back, but listen first!
Sister Toldja

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geisha.song. said...

that is so true!
we want the 'reformed' bad boys or the ones that, like you said, we want to want us but we want to make us work for it too.

in my neck of the woods tho, the light-skinned\mixed race peoples actually have a major advantage which i suppose is kinda sad, but then again it all depends.

Morgan said...

HA!Good post, I dig it! I was wondering if you could touch on the "authenticity check" for light-skinned Blacks, women in particular, in an upcoming blog. Since I've been at HU I've had people make jokes in passing about me being light-skinned (even though I consider myself caramel lol) and it's disheartening. Some will even joke and ask me how am I light-skinned with dreads? WTF? Plus, everyone seems to think light skinned women have it made, but in our own community, I've found that that's not always necessarily true. I'd like to know your take on it, especially since you can relate.

Luvvie a.k.a. Queen IG said...

Sho you rite!!! I am DEFINITELY a fan of swagger, and lack of it is a turn off. When people ask for an explanation of swagger, I am unable to put it into words. It is that je ne sais quoi, but when I see it, I know it.

I do love me some chocolate brothers, but I won't write off a dude just cause he is melanin-deficient.

Bombchell said...

Nice blog, lovely post.

the topic on skin color has been done to death, mostly by blacks. My teacher claims most white people dont see the difference btwn dark, caramel & light skin, I refuse to believe her MIT ass.

Anyways personally I think it's preference, and the whole black & beautiful movement could say & wish all they want. But lots of people prefer light skin people, c'mon bleaching is popular worldwide. think of the paper bag test. I hear dumb comments like gotta marry a mixed chick to get good hair. And ive met dark skin girl that had to overcome prejudice, but every skin color faces that, [srhugs]
dumb commens like i'll date a brown dark man, but not a Blaaaaack!! man. people need to look beyond skin color, but still admit we all have preferences based on society.

Jenn said...

These guys also need to keep in mind the frame of mind of these women they are looking to bag, nevermind their lack of swagger.

If you're being passed up because you're not 'thug' enough, it kind of shows ol' girl's lack of maturity. I consider myself to be a mature 22 year old, and while I do love looking at a man who fits the description of MC Lyte's 'Rough Neck', I'd take the man with the kinder, gentler disposition any day. Half of the time, the tougher looking dudes wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight, anyway.

OG, The Original Glamazon said...

The realest talk today( I know its only 10:41 am but humor me) was when you typed most people are frightened by what they need and controlled by what they want

Yes I keep saying one day I will try to break down swagger because it's different for different men, but the effect should still be the same.

-OG

thequietnegress said...

I dated a dude with that thug mentality...and I wasn't attracted to him b/c of that, I had known him for a long time. We did not last because I had to stay schooling him on his blatant misogyny and racism towards black women. I'm much more attracted to REGULAR dudes. AVERAGE. Sensitive without being soft. Maybe I'm weird but a lot of times, swagger doesn't do anything for me b/c I get the impression that it's just an act.

the champ said...

i guess the next question is are we alone? are we the only culture of people who place such a high premium on coolness and sex appeal when choosing our mates? if so...why?

hmmm. i smell a future entry topic.

btw, this was a very well written entry. seriously. good job

Katchin said...

Great post!
Personally, I've never really been attracted to a whole lot of "swagger". My friends have been getting on my about this since somewhere around 8th grade - for talking to the almost (or actually) nerdy guys, who might be kind of shy & usually weren't the ones everyone had a crush on. I like substance over swagger, and I'm willing to look a little harder and wait a little longer for something to click with a dude, even if I'm not %100 sold on dude on our 45 second meeting a club (not that I talk to most dudes in the club anyway, but that's another story).

Maybe it's just me, but with very few exceptions, I've dated a good number of "good" Black men, most of whom I'm still lucky enough to have a friendship with after the fact. Y'all can keep your swagger, lol.

Hampton06 said...

great post. congrats on the nominations.

GOODENess said...

ST you kow you were my first e-girl crush and s*t like this is why...GREAT POST!!

I enjoy a man who is comfortable in his skin and is comfortable with the way I am confortable in mine! I am an extrovert, stylish, often called a flirt...and I'm confident...so I need a man that is completely able to be proud of the full, red boned sister beaming at his side...most are only that way for a while...I have come to the conclusion that in order to appreciate the cool...you have to posess it...those that lack...we see coming a mile away!

I have all the covers for the EBONY "cool" spread and I read them to my son and showed him the pictures...I try to show him as many illustrations as possible of the duality of the Negro...

as always, be GOOD..or be GOOD AT IT!

suga said...

AMEN!

I get tired of LAME brothas saying that they get passed over because women want thugs. No...hoodrats want thugs. Educated women want a guy who isnt LAME and can possibly make them feel protected. Nobody wants a Steve Urkel, no matter how wonderful you may think u are. lol Seriously, I've dated some guys who would be great and treat me like a porcelain princess, but the fact that they were lame or corny as hell, and i realized that i'd eventually go crazy trying to deal with their lameness, forced me to lock them in the friend zone. And then they say that i want a thug...bwahahaha yeah ok. Because i dont want you, does not mean that I want the extreme opposite of what u r.

Cant wait for the words that u have for the sistas, ST.

tasha212 said...

I actually used to be attracted to swagger. In this day and age, I try to look deeper. Swagger is an outside accessory. It shouldn't be necessary for a woman to talk to a brotha. Give me the spiritual, intelligent, (preferably chocolate) brotha any day. Attractiveness is a must. But swagger, that's superficial and unimportant.

Sister Toldja said...

Morgan- I will probably travel that subject in the future. It's a difficult one because people tend to get all "Oh, boo hoo, your light skinned, and what?" I think the problem with our community is that we allow some struggles to be dealt with and others to be ignored.

Champ- I think every culture (or subculture) has the things they value or place a high level of importance on when it comes to attracting mates and "swagger" is one of ours. We aren't a monolith, certainly some women could give a fuck about swagger, but it seems to be a commonly desired trait in it's many different forms.

The Socialite said...

Congrats Cool Kid!

Charmell said...

Hey, ST. I supported you in the nominations round and I'll be voting for you again!

You're onto something with your thoughts about swagger. My hubby is from the hood and he knows how to handle himself in any environment, but he's not thuggish. He's clean cut with zero tats, piercings, or baggy clothes. When I met him, he didn't even own a pair of jeans or sneaks. He was always in dress pants/shirts/shoes. He's got a bachelor's degree and a great technology job, but he's also rather bookish and geekie about his interests/hobbies. Still, the first time we met, he made a lasting and positive impression on me with minimal effort. Short story:

The day we met, I'd noticed he was staring at me and my friend while we ate. The staring had made me uncomfortable so when I saw him a few hours later, I rather loudly confronted him about it. When I asked him, "Why were you staring at me and my friend Wanda?" he responded without missing a beat, "Wanda... Who's Wanda??? Baby, I was staring at YOU."

Well, shut my mouth! He knew when and how to deliver a line and he also knew how to back it up with substance and authenticity as the interaction unfolded. That was September 1994. We've been pretty much inseparable ever since. :)

Vanitastrawberi said...

I think (most) women are looking for that guy who looks like he can hold his own if he HAD to be on the streets, but chose to be a doctor instead. Its a delicate balance, and I haven't met a guy who is completely balanced in that area.

But as beautiful dark skinned sista, I get SO ANGRY when people give me compliments like 'your SO pretty for a dark skinned girl', like wtf? Is it a miracle that I have dark skin AND I'm pretty?? (it doesn't help that its those of a lighter hue who give me these left handed compliments either)

Torrance Stephens - All-Mi-T said...

well congrats
and whats an educated thug folk
albeit i dont claim thug but have been described as such

Torrance Stephens - All-Mi-T said...

ps: refs
Dick ridin’ aint my thang

Sticks & stones

i aint no prince charming (post # 400)

Qucifer said...

GAHHH thugs and roughnecks and gold teeth having men with nasty disposition and fly off the handle trigger temper and all of that can go ahead and move to the side for the NICE, WELL-READ, NON-WOLF STAREDOWN GIVING, CHILL, DORKY NERDY,ALTERNATIVE, FAITHFUL, STAY AT HOME CHILLING, NON BLACK AND MILD SMOKER, SEXY, SENSIBLE SPENDER, MAN OF HIS WORD, TALLER THAN ME that also happens to be GOOD IN BED and a NON HOMOPHOBIC MENTALLY OPEN dude to come talk to me, I wasn't gonna talk to their FUBU wearing selves anyways so is all gooooooddd

Janus said...

Excellent post Sister T.... and like you say, if it aint working the common denominator in all the equations is yourself so its up to you to fix it.

You got mad writing skillz dawg..... Ize gon votes fo' yo ass!! Fo sho!!!!

firstladyofsoulshore said...

look at daddy looking all SISTA TOLJAISH, ooh u look like him,big forehead and all!

Brother OMi said...

again, its all about handling rejection.

I am not the handsomest dude in the room, so i had to excel in other departments. when i was real young i had an issue with rejection but then i learned about stats. you can't win them all. there are other fish in the sea. if one female says no, kewl, move on.

Anonymous said...

This article is shallow and represented wrong. If the majority of our black women want the "swagger"..fine. But don't be upset when the majority of men want light skinned..big booty models who are porned stars in the bedroom. Black women need to be more realistic. My theory is..if your single and getting older, common sense will tell you that the spouse your wanting isn't for you. If one is stubborn to possibly finding that spouse...fine, go ahead. But don't be surprised when your 33 years old and still single and NEVER been married. The older wmen get..the less desirable they are to men.

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